Lord it was terible. 1) Chief Doublehead (a rival of James Vann) 2) John Foreman a) Elizabeth Foreman m. John Elliott (white) 3) James Vann a) Sally Vann m. Evan Nicholson (white) / James Lamar (white) b.1797 F)Dawnee, described by the Moravian missionaries as a poor full blood woman, who was often drunk.She had at least 2 and maybe 3 husbands: 1) James Vann He born at Spring Place, Georgia on February 11, 1798. Don't know what they ever did with that arm. Pretty soon everybody commenced a singing and a prayin'. I never forget when they sold off some more negroes at de same time, too and put dem all in a pen for de trader to come and look at. Marster had a big Christmas tree, oh great big tree, put on the porch. I was born after the War, about 1868, and what I know 'bout slave times is what my pappa told me, and maybe that not be very much. If somebody bad sick he git de doctor right quick, and he don't let no negroes mess around wid no poultices and teas and sech things, like cupping-horns neither! Dere come six children; Charley, Alec, Laura, Harry Richard and Jeffy, who waS named after Jefferson Davis. After the explosion someone found an arm up in a tree on the bank of the river. He is indeed of warm temper, but who can gain his love, which is no hard task, has gained all, and we have no doubt that with reasonable management, he may be made a very useful man.". They could have anything they wanted. Born in Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States on 11 Feb 1765 to John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Vann and WahLi Wa-Wli aka Polly Otterlifter Mary Christiana Otterlifter Wolf Clan. Jennie was born on December 23 1804, in Georgia, USA. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. He took us back to Texas right down near where I was born at Bellview. My other sisters was Polly, Ruth and Liddie. One night a runaway negro come across form Texas and he had de blood hounds after him. After we got our presents we go way anywhere and visit colored folks on other plantation. Correction Note: The preceding comments by the interviewer incorrectly depicts the relationship between the family members. Mammy say they was lots of excitement on old Master's place and all the negroes mighty scared, but he didn't sell my pappy off. When they gave a party in the big house, everything was fine. He related an unpleasant encounter with "Little Joe" Vann, son of "Rich Joe" Vann. In summer when it was hot, the slaves would sit in the shade evening's and make wooden spoons out of maple. Lord have mercy on us, yes. I wore a stripedy shirt till I was about 11 years old and den one day while we was down in the Choctaw Country old Mistress see me and nearly fall off her horse. They brought it home and my granmother knew it was Joe's. Joseph Vann, the son of Chief James Vann and his wife Margaret Scott Vann, was a lad of 12 when his father was killed, in 1809. Everybody had fine clothes everybody had plenty to eat. Chief James Clement Vann married Mary Margaret "Peggy" Scott and had 14 children. In 1840 the town of Harrison was developed on an adjoining property, and the county seat of Hamilton County was moved south to the Tennessee River to this location. Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days to go to Fort Gibson. I don't know how old I is; some folks ay I'se ninety-two and some say I must be a hundred. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder. See other search results for Chief Joseph David VANN Ready to discover your family story? Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. Cherokee tribes are native to the North American continent. She bossed all the other colored women and see that they sew it right. Seneca Chism was my father. He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses. The cooks would bake hams, turkey cakes and pies and there'd be lots to eat and lots of whiskey for the men folks. Although Lucinda Vann was owned by Jim Vann, she told about the death of "Rich Joe" Vann and the recovery of one of his arms, following the deadly explosion on his steamboat, the Lucy Walker. A town was laid out on his Hamilton Country farm which was called, Vanntown. Husband of Polly Vann and Jennie Vann My husband was a Cherokee born Negro, too, and when he got mad he forgit all the English he knowed. I eat from a big pan set on the floor---there was no chairs--and I slept in a trundle bed that was pushed under the big bed in the daytime. His father John Joseph VANN is about 48 years old in 1779 - estimations) Sept. 27 1793 - Daniel SMITH Letter to Henry KNOX. Cornelius Neely Nave was a grandson of Talaka Vann, a slave owned by Joseph Vann in Webbers Falls. Marster and Missus was dead. We had seven horses and a litle buffalo we'd raised from when its little. My brothers was name Sone and Frank. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. One day Missus Jennie say to Marster Jim, she says, "Mr. Vann, you come here. Christmas morning marster and missus come out on the porch and all the colored folks gather around. One year later my sister Phyllis was born on the same place and we been together pretty much of the time ever since, and I reckon dere's only one thing that could separate us slave born children. The colored folks did most of the fiddlin'. We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust. There was great big wooden scaffolds. When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. The master's house was a big log building setting east and west, with a porch on the north side of the house. Brown sugar, molasses, flour, corn-meal, dried beans, peas, fruits butter lard, was all kept in big wooden hogsheads; look something like a tub. Joseph Vann, son of Chief Joseph Vann and his wife Margaret Scott Vann, married first, Jennie Springton, born December 23, 1804, died August 4, 1863. He never seen them neither. Dey called young Mr. Joe "Little Joe Vann" even after he was grown on account of when he was a little boy before his pappy was killed. Den old Master get three wagons and ox teams and take us all way down on Red River in de Choctaw Nation. I don't know how old I is; some folks say I'se ninety-two and some say I must be a hundred. Someone rattled the bones. He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. He was accidentally killed in the explosion of one of his boats, the "Lucy Walker" which was blown up near Louisville, Kentucky on October 26, 1844. He located at Webbers Falls on the Arkansas River and operated a line of steamboats on the Arkansas, Mississippi, and Ohio Rivers. I had two brothers, Silas and George, dat belong to Mr. George Holt in Webber's falls town. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. When father was young he would go hunting the fox with his master, and fishing in the streams for the big fish. If someone they didn't want to have it try to dig it up, money sink down, down deep in the ground where they couldn't get it. He had to work on the boat, though, and never got to come home but once in a long while. He was a Cherokee leader who owned Diamond Hill (now known as the Chief Vann House), many slaves, taverns, and steamboats that he operated on the Arkansas, Mississippi, Ohio, and Tennessee Rivers. When they gave a party in the big house, everything was fine. He'd take us and enjoy us, you know. My uncle Joe was de slave boss and he tell us what de Master say do. Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Falls. Lord, Yes! I had one brother and one sister sold when I was little and I dont remember the names. A the Roanoke rapids what Roanoke rapids makes makes Roanoke rapids Herald clab8i.fied advert bin gets Quick results a k k volume Xxxiii Roanoke rapids n. C. Thursday january 29, 1948 number 13 Weldon chief says he is not quitting four county delegates Halifax county farm Bureau will have four voting delegates in addition to a sizable Contin . . The engineer's name was Jim Vann. The people conducting the interviews from 1936-1938 were instructed to write the material gleaned from the interviews as closely as possible to the speech patterns of the former slaves they interviewed. Yes, my dear Lord yes. Olia Lee Clifton, 91, passed . Up at five o'clock and back in sometimes about de middle of de evening long before sundown, unless they was a crop to git in before it rain or something like dat. His Uncle John Vann was the son in law of Terrepin and grandson-in-law of Oconastota; Oconastota was. Those included in this collection all mention the Vanns. is anything else your are looking? You see, I'se one of them sudden cases. His favorite son, Joseph, may have worked as a gunsmith early in life, but it has not been documented. Edit your search or learn more Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days and go to Fort Gibson. After several days of pursuit, the Indians caught up with the escaped slaves and a heated battle inflicted casualties on both sides. And dishes, they had rows and rows of china dishes; big blue platters that would hold a whole turkey. When the Indians decided to return home for reinforcements, the slaves started moving again toward Mexico. He used to take us to where Hyde Park is and we'd all go fishin'. Then, in Section 2, John Vann's own records will be presented as unembellished as can be in order to glimpse him at work as a Chickasaw packman, Cherokee trader and government translator. Everbody goin' on races gamblin', drinkin', eatin', dancin', but it as all behavior everything all right. Dey was for bad winter only. There was big parties and dances. Sometimes the sleep was too deep and somebody would be late, but the master never punish anybody, and I never see anybody whipped and only one slave sold. on the Ohio River. Among the several hundred slaves owned by the Vanns at that time, many were skilled craftsmen and tradesmen capable of helping build such a fine house. Us Cherokee slaves seen lots of green corn shootings and de like of dat but we never had no games of our own. Thompson, mixed blood Cherokee Indian, but before that pappy had been owned by three different master; one was the Rich Joe Vann who lived down at Webber Falls and another was Chief Lowery of the Cherokees. I know he is right, too. Every dollar she make on the track, I give it to Lucy." Joseph Vann inherited the "Diamond Hill" estate from his father and from him he also inherited the ability for trading by which he increased his fortune to a fabulous size. Old Master had some kind of business in Fort Smith, I think cause he used to ride into dat town about every day on his horse. I don't know what he done after that. Wupsi. Everybody, white folks and colored folks, having a good time. He would sing for us, and I'd like to hear them old songs again! Young Master Joe let us have singing and be baptized if we want to, but I wasn't baptized till after the War. When Mammy went old Mistress took me to de Big House to help her and she was kind to me like I was part of her own family. Lord yes, su-er. During the hearing, former Governor Joseph Brown warned Slaton, "In all frankness, if Your Excellency wishes to invoke lynch law in Georgia and destroy trial by jury, the way to do it is by retrying this case and reversing all the courts."[154][155][n 16][n 17] According to Tom Watson's biographer, C. Vann Woodward, "While the hearings of the . My husband didn't give me nothing. They'd sell 'em to folks at picnics and barbecues. Yes, my dear Lord yes. He was a slave on the Chism plantation, but came to Vann's all the time on account of the horses. Like the Ph.D. and the Christmas tree, as Tony Weir has pointed out, the Festschrift is a German import.2 The literal . Don't know much about him. Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river. I wouldn't go, so he sent Isaac and Joe Vann dat had been two of Old Captain Joe's negroes to talk to me. Bahnen der Stadt Monheim GmbH. I dont know, but that was before my time. 1795(Chas.Fox Taylor)(John Stidham,Sr. The Vanns later relocated to Indian Territory, present-day Oklahoma. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. I went to the missionary Baptist church where Marster and Missus went. 467-91. Thank you for visiting chief joseph vann family tree page. They make pens out in the shallow water with poles every little ways from the river banks. I'se born across the river in the plantation of old Jim Vann in Webbers Falls. Sometimes us children would try to follow her, but she'd turn us around pretty quick and chase us back with: "Go on back to the house or the wolves get you.". The white folks go first and after they come out, the colored folks go in. It was "Don't Call the Roll, Jesus Because I'm Coming Home." In one month you have to get back. Historical records and family trees related to Cherokee Vann. Unfortunately, this building was later destroyed during the American Civil War. When they get it they take it back to their cabin. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. Its got a buckeye and a lead bullet in it. They'd come to the door like this, "sh.." and go out quick again. The comfort accorded house slaves is in stark contrast to the lives of the field slaves described in other interviews. He was married, but that din't make no difference he courted her anyhow. In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. He jest kept him and he was a good Negro after that. The master had a bell to ring every morning at four o'clock for the folks to turn out. I joined the Catholic church after the war. Yes, Lord Yes. Marr. 33, No. Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. My aunt done de carding and spinning and my mammy done de weaving and cutting and sewing , and my pappy could make cowhide shoes wid wooden pegs. There Vann constructed a replica of his lost Georgia mansion. No nails in none of dem nor in de chairs and tables. However, the following narrative by the ex-slave, Cornelius Neely Nave, contains correct family relationships. They'd bring whole wagon loads of hams, chickens and cake and pie. I been a good Christian ever since I was baptised, but I keep a little charm here on my neck anyways, to keep me from having the nose bleed. Cremation arrangements under the care of Jenkins Funeral Home, Burnet, Texas. Some of the old chief's names was Gopher John, John Hawk and Wild Cat. Joseph had 21 siblings: Delilah Amelia McNair (born Vann), Mary Ga Ho Ga Vann and 19 other siblings. There was a bugler and someone callled the dances. Trusted by millions of genealogists since 2003. . Yes I was! We even had brown sugar and cane molasses most of de time before de War, sometimes coffee, too. Seneca Chism was my father. Now I'se just old forgotten woman. I got all the clothes I need from old Mistress, and in winter I had high top shoes with brass caps on the toe. There was Mr. Jim Collins, and Mr. Bell, and Mr. Dave Franklin, and Mr. Jim Sutton and Mr. Blackburn that lived around close to us and dey all had slaves. He was a traveler, didn't stay home much. Yes Lord yes. In ever did see no money neither, until time of de War or a little before. Old Master Joe was a big man in the Cherokees, I hear, and was good to his negroes before I was born. Some had been in a big run-away and had been brung back, and wasnt so good, so he keep them on the boat all the time mostly. He and his sister Mary were children of James Vann and Nannie Brown, both Cherokee of mixed blood with white-European ancestry. There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance. It was in the Grand River close to the ford, and winter time. We had home-made wooden beds wid rope springs, and de little ones slept on trundle beds dat was home made too. My mother, grandmother, aunt Maria and cousin Clara, all worked in the big house. We lived there a long time, and I was old enough to remember setting in the yard watching the river (Grand River) go by, and the Indians go by. Oh Lord, no. Son of James (Ti-ka-lo-hi) Crazy Chief Vann and Nancy (Go-sa-du-i-sga) Timberlake "We'd say "Come on buffalo", and it would come to us. but it sunk and him and old Master died. Christmas lasted a whole month. http://www.timcdfw.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I7805&tree= Joseph Vann removed to the West in 1836. Marvin Lee Jenkins Jr. 07222022 Full Obituary Charles Edward Johnson 07202022 Full Obituary Wanda Lee Dewberry . She holler, "Easter, you go right now and make dat big buck of a boy some britches!". Everybody had a good time. At night dem trundles was jest all over the floor, and in de morning we shoved em back under de big beds to git dem outn' de way. They'd sell 'em to folks at picnics and barbecues. That mean't she want a biscuit with a little butter on it. Everything we had was made by my folks. His master Daniel Nave, was Cherokee. Mammy had the wagon and two oxen and we worked a good size patch there until she died, and then I git married to Cal Robertson to have somebody to take care of me. Then up come de man from Texas with de hounds and wid him was young Mr. Joe Vann and my uncle that belong to young Joe. They are one of five tribes known as the Five Civilized Tribes. A doctor put it in alcohol and they kept it a long time. He had black eyes and mustache but his hair was iron gray, and everybody like him because he was so good natured and kind. Betty was born May 21,1943 to A.R. Joe had two wives, one was named Missus Jennie. I'd like to go where we used to have picnics down below Webbers Falls. We went by Webber's Falls and filled de wagons. Smoeone call our names and everybody get a present. It was bad, oh it was bad. She had some land close to Catoosa and some down on Greenleaf Creek. Old Master Joe was a big man in the Cherokees, I hear, and was good to his Negroes before I was born. After supper the colored folks would get together and talk, and sing, and dance. National Express. Father of Nancy Vann; David Vann; Sallie Blackburn Vore; William Vann; Sophia S. Johnson and 9 others; Charles J. Vann; Delilah Amelia Brewer; Joseph W. Vann; Jane Elizabeth Vann; James Springston Vann; Mary Frances Vann; John Shepherd Vann, Sr.; Henry Clay Vann and Minerva Vann less My marster and missus buried their money and valuables everywhere. Next came the carpenters, yard men, blacksmiths, race-horse men, steamboat men and like that. After de War was over, Old Master tell me I am free but he will look out after me cause I am just a little negro and I ain't got no sense. Vous tes ici : breaking news cass county mi; bp trading and shipping development program salary; chief vann family tree . Everything was cheap. The participants in this near slave revolt received physical punishments, but none were killed. [Note from curator: these slave narratives are not under copyright]. We made money and kept it in a sack. Couldn't nobody go there, less they turn the key. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. Although Joseph Vann's body was never found, slave Lucinda Vann revealed that one of his arms had been found, positively identified, and taken to Vann's home at Webbers Falls, Oklahoma, where it was preserved for many years. You know just what day you have to be back too. Old Master and Mistress kept on asking me did de night riders persecute me any but dey never did. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. Numerous others had previously gone to Oklahoma when their masters voluntarily relocated. The women dressed in whtie, if they had a white dress to wear. I had on my old clothes for the wedding, and I ain't had any good clothes since I was a little slave girl. Young, Mary., "The Cherokee Nation: Mirror of the Republic", (American Quarterly), Vol. Mammy and pappy belong to W.P. Interestingly, Mrs. Vann also speaks of some time that her family spent before and during the war in Mexico. I'm goin' give Lucy this black mare. We had bonnets that had long silk tassels for ties. My missus name was Doublehead before she married Jim Vann. Little hog, big hog, didn't make no difference. He was descended from Robert The Bruce, King of Scotland. I had a brother named Harry who belonged to the Vann family at Tahlequah. A four mule team was hitched to the wagon and for five weeks we was on the road from Texas finally getting to grandma Brewer's at Fort Gibson. 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